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      Pointer scan returns no results

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      Mostly, when I run a pointer scan for a second or third time there are 0 results. I do it exactly as described in the tutorials. Is there a reason why this could happen?
      Or is that really just not possible and Im doing something wrong?

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      What game, and what are you searching for?

      - And what have you set the pointerlevel to be?

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      Quote Originally Posted by velreine View Post
      What game, and what are you searching for?

      - And what have you set the pointerlevel to be?
      In this case for css, here are screenshots where I demonstrate what I do:
      Unfortunately I dont have the permission to put images here so ill paste the link.
      First I search for a pointer, i pick 1 at random:
      https://i.imgur.com/JdalcrO.jpg

      I click on pointer scan and use these settings:
      https://i.imgur.com/8H1jrgm.jpg

      these are the results, for some reason I got the results pretty quickly, like I mostly do.
      https://i.imgur.com/ZQiAQHP.jpg

      I restart the game, find the pointer again, rescan
      https://i.imgur.com/XT4wK5r.jpg

      I do it one more time
      https://i.imgur.com/MvAG1kI.jpg

      And I get an empty result set
      https://i.imgur.com/hP1PKWl.jpg

      To me it seems like I am not doing anything wrong, any ideas?

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      Quote Originally Posted by velreine View Post
      What game, and what are you searching for?

      - And what have you set the pointerlevel to be?
      In this case for css, here are screenshots where I demonstrate what I do:
      Unfortunately I dont have the permission to put images here so ill paste the link.
      First I search for a pointer, i pick 1 at random:
      https://i.imgur.com/JdalcrO.jpg

      I click on pointer scan and use these settings:
      https://i.imgur.com/8H1jrgm.jpg

      these are the results, for some reason I got the results pretty quickly, like I mostly do.
      https://i.imgur.com/ZQiAQHP.jpg

      I restart the game, find the pointer again, rescan
      https://i.imgur.com/XT4wK5r.jpg

      I do it one more time
      https://i.imgur.com/MvAG1kI.jpg

      And I get an empty result set
      https://i.imgur.com/hP1PKWl.jpg

      To me it seems like I am not doing anything wrong, any ideas?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Crypt View Post
      What are you looking for? Health, Ammo?
      In the screenshots that I linked I used health as an example, but I got this issue with most stuff.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Crypt View Post
      Make sure that health is interger not float, which I saw you used on your screenshot.
      Does it explain tho why i get 0 results using a pointer scan after several retries?
      If it was a float and not an integer then I wouldnt be able to find the pointer to begin with.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Crypt View Post
      Sorry for asking... And yes it does.
      Alright I have made another attempt at this.
      I have found that the game ALSO uses a byte to store the health. So I went on pointer scanning as usual. What I did notice is that the same address was returning every time.
      I know that this adress still cant be reliably used on its own because after several reboots its usually gone.
      But I kept on using this address for the pointer scan, and I noticed that as long as I used that address the pointer scan worked. When I picked another address (which is also another byte that contains the players health) I instantly got 0 results.

      Tbh it just feels like cheatengine is malfunctioning on my computer or pointer scan just rarely works.

      Any ideas?

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      Automatic pointer scanning will not always yield results for you. If I were you, I'd breakpoint the memory address see what accesses it, run a debugger and trace back where the static gets set and where offsets get added
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      Quote Originally Posted by c5 View Post
      Automatic pointer scanning will not always yield results for you. If I were you, I'd breakpoint the memory address see what accesses it, run a debugger and trace back where the static gets set and where offsets get added
      OKay I see, So if I am to do as you describe then I would check in cheatengine what accesses that address. then open olly, attach it to the process, go to that address by pressing ctrl + g. But after that I dont know exactly what to do. What will I be looking for to find the real address? I guess I would be looking for mov's most of the time but how will I know what instructions to look for exactly and how do i know when I have found the real address.

      I also know the other method in CE to find what accesses the address and then search for that hex value, add the address of that value + the offset.
      But CE always displays several offsets and I dont know which 1 is the right one.
      like here: https://i.imgur.com/V4uC273.png

      ALso ive found that this method doesnt always find what youre looking for.
      For the sake of practice I tried to find the current gold of the player in dota2, and using that method I could only find the gold that you begin the game with and the current gold just wasnt anywhere to be found.

      But back to the method you mentioned, debugging it with olly. Is it a fool proof method of finding addresses or are there times when it fails as well?

      EDIT: I happened to find a reliable address for the players health in css, but this was done by picking one of the 255 k pointers that were returned before it all went to 0. Also I am not at all sure if the address that I have could change on another PC or whatever, it did work after several reboots on my own pc tho.
      Last edited by roarboar; 02-04-2013 at 09:49 AM.

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      When you hit a breakpoint, and execution is paused, the address of the health (or whatever), is in the stack and accessed. Now you are going to go backwards. You'll look what register held the address and see how it got there. Practise and play around with olly in those matters and you'll get the hang of it.
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